Creation/evolution hermeneutics

Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones on Romans 8:18-23

For the past 6 months I have been battling various health issues. The major one has been gastritis caused by a helicobacter pylori (h. pylori) bacterial infection in my stomach causing stomach erosions, much pain, loss of appetite, nausea and many other symptoms. This has been a difficult time of ups and downs in my health and I have not been able to research or write much on creation based issues. I have not yet got an ‘all-clear’ on the eradication of the bugs but I am hoping for that very soon, Lord willing!

During this time I have listened to many very good sermons (really Bible studies) by Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones (which may be found at

The following three sermons cover the very important creation relevant verses found in Romans 8:18-23

Creation Delivered

Important deductions about evolution; the creation’s hope of deliverance; the grounds of this hope; the glory of Christ; of His people and of creation.

Paradise Regained

Sermon #3176

The manifestation of the sons of God; the glorification of the body; physical and spiritual perfection; our reserved inheritance; the creation’s share in our glory; Paradise regained.

Death and Heaven

The eternal state and the millennium; death and heaven; glorified bodies on a glorified earth; Satan’s final defeat; effects on our outlook in this world; groaning and waiting.

By John Gideon Hartnett

Dr John G. Hartnett is an Australian physicist and cosmologist, and a Christian with a biblical creationist worldview. He received a B.Sc. (Hons) and Ph.D. (with distinction) in Physics from The University of Western Australia, W.A., Australia. He was an Australian Research Council (ARC) Discovery Outstanding Researcher Award (DORA) fellow at the University of Adelaide, with rank of Associate Professor. Now he is retired. He has published more than 200 papers in scientific journals, book chapters and conference proceedings.

6 replies on “Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones on Romans 8:18-23”

Hi John. Love your testimony and work. Am old university associate of Ian Plimer who I have sparred with over the years. Even caught up in Hanhdorf at the 2017 Combined mineralogical seminar in October . Also low level author in CMI publications and secular mineralogical literature. Do pray you get well mate!


Hi John, we have not met, but I am an admirer of both your messages and stand for the truth of the Bible. I am very sorry to hear of your health issues and all the struggles that go with it. Then again, no one is offered an easy passage through life (and end up at the right destination!) So, I am glad to see you are still on His track despite the difficulties. I have had some internal health issues too. About 4 years ago the problems started. At that time I happened, through a friend, to hear about pure hydrogen peroxide and its medicinal value. After reading some books on the subject. I found a chemist in England who ships overseas. (I reside in Japan.) I followed the advised usage and dosages. After about 1 year my problems were healed. Now, I cannot say which worked more, the treatment or the prayers! But I have used the hydrogen peroxide to help with gum infections, coughs and colds and more serious issues. I have recommended it to others who have found it useful too. In case you haven’t heard about it I am suggesting it here as a way also to maintain good health going forward from now. It seems to me you have an important job and ministry that reaches many people. So, your staying around as long as possible is a ‘sacrifice freely offered’ (Romans 12:1). I send my prayers for your continued recuperation, health and strength. Yours, John Saunders.
PS I also have a few ministry related recordings at:


John, I have known about food grade hydrogen peroxide for some time and use it regularly. I have tried 3 times to take it internally but found very hard to get past 10 drops of 35% due to the bleach like taste. But I use it for a mouth wash regularly. Thanks for your prayers.


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