Bible Science Forum

The love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10) and the love of science is idolatry. It is the greater root of all evil.

The love of science is the reliance on science exactly in the same way that we heard stated in the fraudulent COVID-19 pandemic. They said “follow the science”, “safe and effective” and Dr Fauci claimed to be “Mr Science”.

This view of science is merely some human claim on knowledge, that they have an inside track on truth. During the pandemic they even made the claim that they were working at the “speed of science”. The reality turned out to be that either the politicians and health professional in charge were totally insane or total idiots.

You could say I began my own science career upon entering my first degree in physics (honors) at the University of Western Australia in 1970. That means I have been in some form studying science for the past 54 years. I came to know the Lord Jesus Christ in 1972 and have been studying the Bible ever since. So I have a perspective from both sides, from both the Bible and Science, with a strong emphasis on physics.

This may surprise you but after all those years I have just come to fully realise something that reconciles these fields of study in an extremely simple way. It has taken me 50 years to come to this realisation even though I have incrementally approached it from different sides in the past.

What I am about to explain you may already believe to be true. Perhaps you have always done so, because you were never taught otherwise. But for me the journey to come to this point was long and circuitous because of all that I was taught over the past decades.

What I will try to explain here applies to all sciences, of every discipline. But let me start at the beginning, which involves the universe and light.

The Universe

The first verse in the Bible, Genesis 1:1, states “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”

A Hebrew idiom is employed here and “the heaven and the earth” means “the universe”. God created the whole universe, but there is little detail of anything outside of the solar system anywhere in the Bible. In fact, the creation of the stars on Day 4 of creation week is only briefly stated in Genesis 1:16. Almost like an afterthought. Why?

Here is where the science comes in. We define science through the process of testability and that that must be a repeatable process. That is experimental science, not historical or forensic science.

If you cannot test a theory or hypothesis, with repeatability, it is not science. Here testability means interactability. The agent carrying out the experiment can interact with the test subject.

In terms of testability of any science humans are limited to this solar system. No human can test any theory or cosmology on the universe or parts of the universe outside of the solar system.

One-Way Speed of Light

This is an important concept that is essential to understand in the context of testing theories on the universe.

The one-way speed of light is unmeasurable. In principle it cannot be done. This topic is related to the problem Einstein came up against when developing his theory of special relativity. It is related to the problem of synchronising clocks separated by a distance, known as the conventionality thesis. This has been known now for at least the past 110 years.

What this means is that when looking out into the cosmos we cannot say we are looking back in time. Since we cannot know the speed at which light arrives from the cosmos we can make no statement about the age of objects we see in the universe.

There is no experiment, in principle or otherwise, that can be devised to refute this view. Obviously mankind cannot traverse the great distances of space to install an observer in another star system or in another galaxy. But even if he could it still remains true that we cannot know the one-way speed of light coming to us from the stars.

This is true for Earth observers looking into the universe. It is also true for observers in the solar system. In other words, after a long journey in a spacecraft an observer lands on the planet Pluto and have him exchange a light signal with an Earth observer. Can you measure the incoming speed of the light (or any electromagnetic communication) signal the Pluto-bound astronaut might send?

No, it is impossible. The same is true for any such experiment even in a local lab setup. The point this demonstrates is that there is an intrinsic limitation to what we call science.

This means that in accordance with the biblical narrative, everything we are seeing in the universe, all the galaxies, are as they are now. We are seeing them in real time, and not at some past time millions or billions of years ago. No science experiment can disprove that.

For the details on the one-way speed of light you can read a lot which I have written on this site. Here is a good starting point.

I don’t want to go down that rabbit hole here, because the point I make is that there exists a limitation to what we call science. So we can say immediately that it cannot provide an answer to all questions.

On the questions of origins it cannot provide any answers at all. Usually the assumed prior belief of the researcher is all that is needed.

Cosmology is Not Science

Some hypotheses cannot be tested. If it cannot be tested it is not science.

All cosmology is like this. It cannot be tested and if that is the case it is a religious belief and not science. I contend therefore it is pagan religion. That means you have a choice between one religious belief or another. I choose the biblical worldview knowing that it is also a belief system.

The following is from an article in the journal Science quoting two leading professional cosmologists:

“’Cosmology may look like a science, but it isn’t a science,’ says James Gunn of Princeton University, co-founder of the Sloan survey. ‘A basic tenet of science is that you can do repeatable experiments, and you can’t do that in cosmology.’

‘The goal of physics is to understand the basic dynamics of the universe,’ [Michael] Turner says. ‘Cosmology is a little different. The goal is to reconstruct the history of the universe.’ Cosmology is more akin to evolutionary biology or geology, he says, in which researchers must simply accept some facts as given.”

Cho, A., A singular conundrum: How odd is our universe?, Science 317:1848–1850, 28 Sept 2007 (emphases added)

Besides it is also admitted by secular cosmologists, who try to describe the history of the universe with physical theories, that the universe is underdetermined. There is more than one theory that could describe the same observations and therefore there is no theory that can be concluded as representing reality.

Scientific Method

Another myth is the so-called Scientific Method, where allegedly an hypothesis is formulated and predictions are made then tested in an experiment. In the sense of repeatable testable measurements in what we call operational science, it is a myth.

Never did I ever experience such a classic method in all my years in experimental physics. I mean if anywhere in science where the Scientific Method should be seen it is in experimental physics in a local lab.

What actually is used is called Bayesian methodology. This is defined thus.

“Bayesian research methods empower decision makers to discover what works by putting new research findings in context alongside an existing evidence base, which ultimately leads to stronger confidence in their conclusions.”

https://www.mathematica.org/features/bayesian-methods

It could also be called researcher bias. The experiment will invariably be built on the basis of what the researcher already believes to be true. I am not saying that this does not lead the research anywhere useful, but what I am saying is that it limits the scope of what a researcher may investigate. In fact, often times major discoveries are made when the researcher ignores Bayesian methods about what is supposed to be and looks “outside the box”.

This Bayesian method could be called a prior assumed belief in the experts. However leaning on the experimental evidence to get a desired outcome leads to corruption in the science.

Believe me this has happened many many times in so-called science. There is not room here to described it all. But it happens in all fields, especially in the medical sciences.

“A lot of what is published is incorrect.” So began a letter in the Comment section in the medical journal the Lancet. The following is a sample of excerpts from that letter (my emphases added in bold).

Why the paranoid concern for secrecy and non-attribution? [in regards to government employees.] Because this symposium—on the reproducibility and reliability of biomedical research, held at the Wellcome Trust in London last week—touched on one of the most sensitive issues in science today: the idea that something has gone fundamentally wrong with one of our greatest human creations.

The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”.

The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world. Or they retrofit hypotheses to fit their data.

Can bad scientific practices be fixed? Part of the problem is that no-one is incentivised to be right. Instead, scientists are incentivised to be productive and innovative.

Richard Horton, Offline: What is medicine’s 5 sigma?  www.thelancet.com Vol 385, p. 1380, April 11, 2015

For more on this see How Much Can You Trust in Science?

Of course this leads to fraud on a mass scale.

All fields of study have this same problem. That is, all so-called science is limited by the beliefs of the researchers involved. Their beliefs dominate the research and the published findings. There is no secret about that.

What is Truth?

In practice it has boundary conditions. What I mean by that is that there is no such thing as an open investigation for the truth. It is always corralled into some restricted zone, where only certain outcomes are permissible. And I mean from the human perspective, controlled by humans who cannot possible be the final arbiters on what is truth. If they could be they would be as omniscient as the Creator.

For examples, can we know from scientific investigations the true history of the universe? Can we know from scientific investigations what is the exact truth on the make up of all sub-atomic particles? Or the exact truth about human physiology and how it all functions?

Three areas of history that fall into the area of religious beliefs because all are untestable.

The History of the Universe is Untestable

Cosmology is just stamp collecting! That is collections of different types of astrophysical objects. The astronomers collect stamps of different types and assemble collections to try and support their religiously held belief systems called theories.

The History of Planet Earth is Untestable

Geology is just rock collecting! Very similar to cosmology. There is no access to the past, it is gone forever. All theories and models including all those with biblical or religious underpinnings are untestable. All beliefs, biblical or otherwise, are only held by faith.

The History of Life’s Origin is Untestable

The spontaneous organisation of a living cell from organic chemicals in a warm pond is a past one-off unobserved putative event. As such it is untestable. Following that the Darwinian evolution of one organism into another over billions of years is untestable. These ideas all fall into the category of religious beliefs. They call it science, which means it must be religion.

Operational Science

Operational science is testable and repeatable. The theory of gravitation is a good example. But it also is limited. It is spatially limited to the solar system. Out farther beyond that it is back to stamp collecting and there are good examples, where our theories don’t work. Galaxy rotation curves, for example. And no matter how many stamps we collect we cannot test the theory on the universe.

The Standard Model of particle physics is one of the best theories in physics but it also has its limitations. In this regard permit me to hijack Gödel’s first incompleteness theorem, and apply it to physical theories. Ironically it would follow that any complete theory (a consistent system of axioms) cannot be totally correct and conversely any totally correct theory cannot be complete.

The Standard model has problems at high energy, i.e at smaller sizes. This is a demonstration of Gödel’s first incompleteness theorem applied to a physical theory. It works beautifully on nearly all scales but breaks down on others.

The same is true for gravitation. No known theory exists which combines gravitation with particle physics.

The Standard Model of particle physics effectively describes fundamental particles but lacks Dark Matter particles and contradicts observations supporting the big bang model. Theories propose adding unknown Dark Matter particles to resolve discrepancies in big bang nucleosynthesis, yet this approach is seen as problematic, leading to further debates on the necessity of such additions in theoretical physics.

We Cannot Know the Truth by Scientific investigation

Fundamentally by stating that the notion that mankind can in principle discover all truth means that mankind has become as gods.

What I am building up to here is that there are fundamental barriers in place that prevent us knowing all truth about the natural world and the history of this universe.

Science is a useful tool if an understanding of its limitations is kept in mind. Otherwise it is a pagan religion where essentially man has become a god.

During the COVID-19 pandemic it seems the whole medical world lost their minds and questioned nothing. The alleged virus was never isolated and never shown to exist yet to this day the experts talk about it as if it exists and is still causing havoc in the community.

This means belief or religion is what is still operating in their minds. That is also true in nearly all so-called science: cosmology, cosmogony, and astrophysics (with all sorts of fudge factors), geology and planetary history, biology and medical science (especially vaccinology).

Science is a gnostic religion. Gnosticism is a religious movement from the first few centuries AD. It is a spiritual and mystical belief rather than a system of rules and authority. Nevertheless it is a belief in what the “experts”, aka priests, say is reality.

Today science has become an idolatrous belief system. The priests in whitecoats define what is truth. The masses are taught to love, i.e. idolise science. Follow the science!

Whereas what I have come to realise is that it is all a facade, smoke and mirrors. And even as well meaning as they are, those who claim belief in the history of the Bible have also fallen into the trap of believing in the gnostic science of this generation. These ideas include big bang origin of the universe, origin of life from a warm pond 4 billion years ago, Darwinian evolution, “safe and effective” vaccines (all are toxic) and most of modern medicine.

I am not advocating a chaotic system. I believe God created the only true “rules based order” and that order we rely on in our daily lives. But many in the Corporate Church depart from the correct history and science, described in the biblical account, because of modern science. It amounts to entering the pagan religion of the Eye of Sauron, or Great Eye (Satanic symbolism). In Tolkien’s pagan novel series Lord of the Rings it was a symbol adopted by the Dark Lord in the late Second Age. It was said that few could endure its terrible gaze.

That is where we are now in this modern time, the church has been mesmerized under the spell of the Great Eye, as has been most of the rest of the world. The love of or obedience to science has become idolatry.

The true biblical history as given to us by the Creator is discarded in light of what the Dark Lords of science say is truth.

God created the universe less than 8,000 years ago. He created man in His own image. He created only male and female, only two sexes. He created the laws of nature and gave us order and not chaos. Christ rejecting humans have departed from this worldview, and even most of those in the Corporate Churches. They have no idea that they are under the spell of the Eye of Sauron.

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