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Human fetal DNA in vaccines is unsafe

On June 15th, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. interviewed the founder and president of Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute, Dr Theresa Deisher, on the use of aborted fetal tissue in vaccines. Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute is a non profit research organisation devoted to find ethical moral alternatives to the human fetal tissues used in vaccine and medicine production.

Dr Theresa Deisher

Human fetal cell line products

On her website Dr. Deisher discusses the presence of human fetal products in our food and vaccines and her mission to create affordable alternatives.

To date, 24 vaccines (10 of these are used in the US) contain components that are produced using human fetal cell lines (the cell lines MRC-5 and WI-38). There are currently 3 FDA approved recombinant drugs with up to 85 coming soon, and specialty cosmetic anti-aging creams also produced using human fetal cell lines or human fetal cell proteins.

In the interview Mr. Kennedy and Dr. Deisher covered a wide range of topics including which vaccines contain human fetal DNA, what the existing research tells us in terms of health risks with vaccines, and what alternatives might be used in place of human DNA in vaccines.

Dr Deisher pointed out that no intact human cells survive the vaccine production process but many DNA fragments do and hence they are found in the vaccines. The reason for this is as she explains in the video at about the 6:00 mark.

The virus grows in the cells and then at the end of that process they try to purify the virus away from the cellular material. But most people understand there’s a give-and-take between purity and amount and so if they were to purify away all of the fetal cell line contaminants the yield of the virus would be so low no one could afford it. And so it’s that balance between yield and purity that results in actually very high levels of fetal DNA fragments being left in vaccines now.

The desired viruses are initially grown in the cells of aborted human babies. Then the products are filtered to remove the desired viruses which filters out some of the products of those fetal cells. But to filter all the human fragments including human DNA and proteins would mean also filtering out most of the desired viruses, making the process too expensive. Hence a balance is reached which leaves some human DNA and cell protein fragments in the mix used to make the vaccines.

Unknown dangers

These other DNA cell fragments from primitive baby cells could be a serious health issue for some people. They could lead to a number of diseases including cancer and auto-immune diseases, where the host’s body targets its own cells. Auto-immune diseases like graft-versus-host, juvenile (type I) diabetes, multiple sclerosis, lupus and some forms of arthritis could result.

She says actually the same problem does not occur with cell lines from non-human sources. Even suggests insect cells may be safest because the human biology does not recognise that DNA. But there is a clear danger also in the retroviruses that are inherited from animal cell lines, which are not filtered out. In fact, prior to the 1980s, animal cells were predominantly used. But only recently has the technology existed to identify animal viruses that may be present in the vaccines made from those animal cell lines. So who knows how many vaccines are contaminated with cancer causing viruses like the monkey virus SV40, or mouse viruses MLV and XMRV?

Barbaric practices

However what is even more shocking is the process she describes (starting at about the 12:30 minute mark in the video) how 32 week gestation human fetuses are born alive and their hearts are cut out while still beating. This is done without anesthesia.

You know what’s really alarming is that lack of outcry over human babies born alive and five to six months old so that their hearts can be obtained beating and they have to be beating to be used in the research that’s being done. If the heart has stopped beating it’s not useful, you cannot use it. And so these babies are delivered alive and their hearts are cut out without anesthesia. I wouldn’t do that to a mouse. … Their hearts are cut out or they cut through their faces to get good brain tissue.

Apparently this way the scientists get the fresh flesh for the cells needed. How barbaric and evil this practice is. Remember the baby is viable. Babies born as young as 31 weeks gestation are easily viable. More than 90% born at 26 to 27 weeks have survived.

She says fetal cell lines like MRC-5 and WI-38 are not immortal and need to be replaced. Fresh aborted babies are needed to establish new cell lines. See also subsection New Aborted Fetal Cell Lines Underway of this document.

Now human fetal cells are starting to be used in medicines and other products, including cosmetics, as well. We will be seeing more and more products containing human fetal DNA. How safe is that? But rejuvenating anti-aging creams and cosmetic products produced using animal and non-fetal human materials are available.

The following is excerpted from Dr Deisher’s testimony submitted to the President’s Council on Bioethics at Georgetown University in 2008.

Aborted human DNA in our vaccines is not the end, it is only the beginning, as the creation of human-animal hybrids demonstrates. A new aborted fetal cell line has been developed, called PerC6, and licenses have been taken by over 50 partners, including the NIH and the Walter Reed Army Institute, to use this cell line for new vaccine and biologics production. The goal of the company that created the PerC6 is to become the production cell line for ALL vaccines, therapeutics antibodies, biologic drugs and gene therapy. We must know the consequences of contaminating human DNA before we wake up and discover that all newly approved recombinant drugs are produced by aborted fetal cells.

Recombinant DNA technology is the process of taking a gene from one organism and inserting it into the DNA of another, which is also called gene splicing.  Aborted human fetus cells are used in such processes to develop drugs.

Aborted fetal cells are also now used to discover new food additives and flavor enhancers. Imagine that; the cells from an aborted fetus used to make your candy sweeter. Isn’t that disgusting? And furthermore, as the company that performs this research states, one may never know these additives will someday be in our food products due to the current labeling guidelines which would allow these new additives to be captured under the generic label of ‘artificial flavors’.

That’s a good reason to never eat any products with ‘artificial flavours’ or ‘natural flavours’ for that matter. One can only imagine what lies ahead, what new diseases will result from such grotesque practices.


How did our society get this way? How did we descend so low? Mankind is sinful but since evolutionary theory has become the main philosophical worldview, where humans are considered just another animal, the depravity has accelerated. God’s word tell us we are created in His image and human life is sacred.

Only God has the right to decide who lives and who dies. But in this depraved world now human babies are essentially born alive to have their body parts removed for so called scientific purposes. The Canaanite Moloch worshippers come to mind–offering their children to the flames of Moloch, their demonic false god.

This should be a wake up call to all the Christians and right thinking people out there. Let’s resist and reject all vaccines, medicines and other products which use aborted human fetal cells in their production. In so doing you may save the lives of many children and as a side benefit not be subject to some surprise diseases that come from injecting such products.



The Italian vaccine research and advocacy organization Corvelva recently (October 2019) released new data regarding the use of aborted fetal cell lines in vaccines. Complete human genome found in GlaxoSmithKline’s tetravalent measles-mumps-rubella-chickenpox (MMRV) vaccine.

The Corvelva team summarized their findings as follows:
1 – The fetal cell line was found to belong to a male fetus.
2 – The cell line presents itself in such a way that it is likely to be very
old, thus consistent with the declared line of the 1960s.
3 – The fetal human DNA represented in this vaccine is a complete
individual genome, that is, the genomic DNA of all the chromosomes
of an individual is present in the vaccine.
4 – The human genomic DNA contained in this vaccine is clearly,
undoubtedly abnormal, presenting important inconsistencies
with a typical human genome, that is, with that of a healthy
5 – 560 genes known to be associated with forms of cancer were
tested and all underwent major modifications.
6 – There are variations whose consequences are not even known, not
yet appearing in the literature, but which still affect genes involved in
the induction of human cancer.
7 – What is also clearly abnormal is the genome excess showing
changes in the number of copies and structural variants.

This is evidence that runs counter to Creation Ministries International claim that no human DNA remain in vaccines.

By John Gideon Hartnett

Dr John G. Hartnett is an Australian physicist and cosmologist, and a Christian with a biblical creationist worldview. He received a B.Sc. (Hons) and Ph.D. (with distinction) in Physics from The University of Western Australia, W.A., Australia. He was an Australian Research Council (ARC) Discovery Outstanding Researcher Award (DORA) fellow at the University of Adelaide, with rank of Associate Professor. Now he is retired. He has published more than 200 papers in scientific journals, book chapters and conference proceedings.

4 replies on “Human fetal DNA in vaccines is unsafe”

I was so sad when I heard on the video about no outcry over human babies born alive at five to six months old so that their hearts can be obtained beating. It moves me to tears. They would take the heart out of a human baby without anesthesia, but wouldn’t do it to an animal. People today would be absolutely outraged to hear of a man killing a newly born panda, or for doing something to a panda to cause it to miscarriage. In China, a man would be executed for killing an adult panda. That’s the evil double standard reality of this world.


Thank you very much, Prof. John G. Hartnett, for your several articles, which you wrote about vaccines during the last couple of weeks. This is really eye-opening and sickening at the same time. I will try to spread the news about this among my contacts here in Germany. Thank you for educating us about these spiritual and medical dangers and hazards.

With warm greetings, in Christ, Christoph Wassermann, in Stuttgart, Germany

PS – In my younger years I also did astrophysics (PhD from the University of Hamburg in 1979). But now I am responsible for a ministry reaching out to Muslims primarily in Asia and Africa.


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John, the term you use: ‘Barbaric practices’, reverberates in every line throughout this horror story. It really is a glimpse into the depravity of what is going on and of how we have slipped into cleverly justifying and turning a blind eye to such evil; yes, even as Christians. And on this note, in your earlier article ‘Using Aborted Babies For Vaccines Is Never Justified’, you quote Jonathan Sarfati of CMI, who wrote in defense of researching on aborted babies and their use in vaccines: “After all, would we refuse a life-saving organ that was from a victim of a drunk driver …?” I wonder if Mr Sarfati, along with CMI, fully understand what he, and they, are actually consenting to and justifying?

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