The following is my latest commentary on chapter 13 of the book of Revelation. I suggest you set aside all your previous notions and take a fresh look.
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Revelation 13:1
The beast in the vision of this chapter is represented slightly differently to the dragon in the vision of chapter 12 verse 3. There the 7 crowns were on the heads of the great red dragon but in this chapter 13 they are on the 10 horns, and thus there are 10 crowns.
The image in chapter 12 vision has 7 heads representing or indicating the 7 kingdoms of man that have dominated the world — Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. The Devil also referred to as the dragon has always controlled the kingdoms of man through the leaders and kings of those kingdoms. In the vision in this chapter I believe that 3 of the 7 heads are not all the same as in the image of chapter 12. It is explained below.
The main focus in this vision is on the 10 horns, which represent kingdoms of man in this final age. The word ‘crowns’ is translated from the Greek word διάδημα diadema or “diadem” representing royalty. Diadems are worn by the kings. I don’t believe that the number 10 needs to be exact as many numbers in Revelation are symbolic.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 13:2
The dragon in chapter 12 verse 3 is identified as Satan (chapter 12 verse 9). The seven headed beast in this chapter is given power and authority by the dragon, which is Satan, but it is not called the dragon. It is different to the dragon of chapter 12. Could that mean this final beast is new in the sense that it is a composite of the kingdoms before it plus something more?
This beast is shown here to be the spiritual summation of the previous 4 kingdoms that went before it. Read Daniel 7:3-17, 21-26. In this verse (13:2) the lion represents Babylon, the bear represents Medo-Persia and the leopard, Greece. And the kingdom of Rome subsumed all those kingdoms. Note Greece was represented by a 4 headed leopard in Daniel 7. This gives you a total of 7 heads over 4 previous major kingdoms, yet it is a new beast, a new power ruling the world today.
But like in chapter 12 vision it is the dragon, Satan, that gave power to the beast. This beast is more focused on these last days and as such the dinosaur or the dragon like creature is the one representing the last kingdom. This is the continuation of the Roman empire today.
Do you remember the statue of the beast recently unveiled before the UN. It had also the elements of these beasts: leopard, bear and lion. The lion in Daniel 7 had eagles wings (verse 4) and the leopard had four wings (verse 6). The stature is called “The Guardian of International Peace and Security”. See 1 Thessalonians 5:3.
It seems like the global cabal of the beast is revealing itself to us now.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Revelation 13:3
I believe the head that was healed is Rome. It is the last beast of Daniel 7. The Roman Empire morphed into the Holy Roman Empire around the middle of the 4th century AD. Eventually the Holy Roman Empire under the Vatican was defeated by Napoleon but later Mussolini restored it to power and gave it the Papal states as sovereign land.
All of the animals in this vision are cruel, terrible beasts of prey; a terror to man. But the last one is the worst, which was Rome. Satan gave power to those kingdoms of man but his final authority was in the ‘dragon’. Initially it was in pagan Rome. But papal Rome (the Papacy) arose from pagan Rome (the City of Rome).
The Reformers rightly picked the papacy in the Holy Roman empire as antichrist and the beast. But it seems today the beast has extended beyond the Vatican and includes the global banking/merchant cabal — the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews but are not (Revelation 2:9; 3:9).
And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like to the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Revelation 13:4
The Luciferian cabal, the so-called “elites” worship the dragon, or Satan. At the top it is only satanism. This is what we have heard of at the highest levels of Freemasonry and Illuminati.
And there was given to him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given to him to continue forty and two months.
Revelation 13:5
The reference here to “him” is to the beast, which is the global Luciferian cabal.
This is the same period of 3.5 years where the dragon inspired cabal persecutes the true believers in Jesus Christ. This is the same period described in Revelation 11:2,3 as well as in Revelation 11:9 where you assume 1 day = 1 year in the prophecy. Also the same as in Revelation 12:6,14. This period of time is determined by God, not by Satan and he knows he has but a short time. See Revelation 12:12.
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Revelation 13:6
Again, “he” here is the Satan inspired beast. He blasphemes or curses God and God’s place in heaven and those who follow God. I note that most people now in the “freedom movement” even if they are not believers in Jesus they have beliefs in a righteous God in some form.
And it was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Revelation 13:7
This describes that 3.5 year period of persecution of the true followers of Jesus Christ. This is God’s judgment on mankind. Satan is just a tool in the hand of God.
One interesting point comes to mind here that during this persecution many others may also be caught up in the dragnet because of the official excuse of rounding up those dissenters/unvaxxed for health reasons. The scriptures generally focus on the saints of God, so there is no mention of others who are not the saints. But it is silent on whether there are others who are also imprisoned and killed because they expose the evil of the Luciferians.
This means that there will not come a time when only Christians are singled out for persecution and death. The lie will be maintained that all the measures they put in place to persecute and quarantine the unvaxxed are for the health of the public. But Satan knows what he is doing. He is working to eliminate the true followers of Jesus Christ, those who would never take the mark of the beast as it becomes fully implemented with the injectible ID chip/cashless wallet/health pass etc all rolled into one technology.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Revelation 13:8,9
However, now we see it is only those who are saved by grace, chosen by God from the foundation of the world, whose names are found written in the book of life.
He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Revelation 13:10
In the end though God will judge those who were the perpetrators of the crimes and persecution of the saints and any others who opposed the totalitarian rule of the beast. Those who had authority to kill the dissidents/unvaxxed, which includes true believers, will in turn be killed for their evil deeds.
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
Revelation 13:11
This second beast if often referred to as the false prophet. This beast is also led by the dragon, a demon. He comes out of the earth, meaning from the people. This is supported by verse 12.
And he [the false prophet] exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast [the global cabal, synagogue of Satan], whose deadly wound was healed.
Revelation 13:12
I believe the identity of this lamb-like beast is all those who shepherd the dumb fools into following Satan under the guise of the first beast / global cabal / Illuminati system. I include in that list, the pope, and many of the megachurch leaders like Rick Warren, Franklin Graham and Joel Osteen. These and many more are promoters of the vaccine death shots and they will be the first to sign up for the mark of the beast. Also I would include the leaders of nations and states as well as leaders of the Big Tech and Big Pharma companies that are instrumental in the implementation of the mark of the beast. See 2 Peter 2:1-3.
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly [craftily] shall bring in damnable [destructive] heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious [hellish] ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness [greed] shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.
2 Peter 2:1-3
This passage really fits what we are now experiencing with church leaders leading so many to get the COVID death shots. Some are saying it is the good Christian thing to do. Franklin Graham has said that Jesus would take the shot and recommend them. These types are clearly not following the Lord Jesus Christ but have sold out for financial gain.
And he [the false prophet] does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Revelation 13:13
These will be faked miracles. Some suggest holographic projections and even a cosmic false flag of an alien invasion. Satan is the great liar and deceiver. See 2 Thessalonians 2:9. This is also remminiscient of the Q movement promising justice will be delivered without any effort on the part of the resistance.
And then shall that wicked one [Satan] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume [slay] with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:8,9
The Vatican has a long history of faking documents that recorded faked miracles. Therefore it is not so hard to believe that in this modern age of the internet, advanced computers, and AI that miracles could be easily faked.
And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he [the false prophet] had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Revelation 13:14
Could the image of the beast be an AI system? It could even be a distributed system so that it is located all over the world. It could be the monitoring of all your online activities and the control of your actions. It could be demonic influences delivered through robots. The Catholic church has such a stature and Buddhist temple in Japan uses a robot to deliver a message.
The reference to the beast that was wounded but did live has to be to the first beast, the cabal. Perhaps it can be understood as a revival of the old Papal Roman Empire but expanded to include the global banking mega rich Satan worshippers.
Napoleon Bonaparte defeated Papal Rome but Benito Mussolini reinstated the Vatican as an independent state within Italy. Since then Papal Rome has connected with other monarchs of the Illuminati system, including the Windsors and the American Freemason elites through the District of Columbia. The current pope, a Jesuit, seems to be about as evil as any pope of the past.
And he [false prophet] had power to give life to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Revelation 13:15
This verse may well refer to the advanced AI power used by the global cabal to enforce their social and financial control system on the people of the Earth. Those who do not conform will ultimately be killed if they cannot be “re-educated” in the quarantine camps.
It is the false prophet that gives life to the image of the beast. Thus, it may be that this is via the Big Tech global control of the internet and all other forms of communications. Censorship will be very strict. This means that the false prophet (meaning a small group of ‘elites’) will totally control the narrative and in so doing control the message on all social and legacy media.
And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:16,17
The mark of the beast is received in the right hand or in the forehead. Note that God seals his own with a mark in their foreheads. See Revelation 7:3; 9:4; 14:1, Ezekiel 9:4. So the mark or seal of the beast here in the forehead seems to indicate those who have chosen to follow Lucifer. The right hand is the dominant hand for most people so it may indicate any hand which someone may choose to have an microchip injected into, or an injection of self-assembling nano-circuits that could be used to connect the individual to the cloud.
The word translated “buy” in this verse comes from Greek word meaning “to buy” or “go to the market” and the word translated “sell” comes from the Greek word meaning “to barter”. So to “buy or sell” is clearly the meaning yet it does not exclude those who might use the black market, those who barter or trade for goods apart from the organised legal means of commerce, who do not go to the shopping centre or the market.
The mark obviously has a wider meaning that just an ID chip. The references to the name or the number of the beast may mean that those who take the mark are those who voluntary choose to put themselves under this system. Thus it is not surprising how in most jurisdictions they try to get people to voluntary choose the COVID shots through the use of incentives and coercion.
Couple these COVID shots with injectible ID tech and a cashless wallet in a cashless society and mass communication like high frequency telephony 5G and 6G signals and global internet from space and you have a perfect surveillance and control system.
Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Revelation 13:18
Essentially this verse is telling us that the beast likes this number 666. It is his number. The number of the beast according to the Greek characters (χξς chi xi stigma) used in this verse is actually 600 and 60 and 6.
The number 6 is the biblical number for man, whereas 7 is the biblical number for God. Possibly this is because the creation was finished in 6 days and man was created on the 6th day. God rested on the 7th day.
Also the cabal use 666 everywhere they can to say to God “we are the masters of our own destiny”. Bill Gates used it in a patent WO2020060606. The USA Congress has proposed legislation H.R.666 – Anti-Racism in Public Health Act of 2021 and H.R.6666 – COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act.
The cabal is the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews but are not. They really do like symbols and also like to tell you what they are up to if you are smart enough to recognise the signs. They also like forms of this number 666 such as 333, or 233 = 2 x 33 etc.
Many people have looked at Gematria and find interesting schemes of assigning 666 to Satan or satanist activities. Under Hebrew Gematria 600 can be derived from “End of Days” and “Lucifer and Satan” in Hebrew characters of course. 60 can be derived from “Biden” and “Magick” and 6 from “Aba” among many others. For the complete number 666 there are too many but this one I like “Number Of A Man Barack Obama“. Under English Gematria MARK OF BEAST = 666.
Personally I would not take this too seriously but for the fact that the synagogue of Satan likes to shove these numbers, 13, 300, 33, 66, 333, 666 etc, into our faces everywhere. Interestingly 6+6+6 =18 is the Jewish lucky number. And the “social distancing” spacing under the plandemic in the USA is 6 feet, so that 6′ – 6′ – 6′ is what we see in the shops there.
Recommended Reading
- WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST?
- War Against God
- COVID-19 Plandemic: How does the church respond?
- Covid Plandemic, the Great Reset or God’s Great Reset?
- Injectible microchip is not ‘conspiracy theory’
- The Globalist are After Your Children — This is the New World Order and the Coming Mark of the Beast
- How Are Forced Covid Vaccinations Different From The Mark Of The Beast? They Aren’t!
- Can you lose your salvation when forced to take the Mark of the Beast?
- Name, number and mark of the beast
- Plandemic – Indoctrination and the coming injectable Mark of the Beast
- Mark of Beast: Digital ID in Africa
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16 replies on “Revelation 13: The Mark of the Beast”
The times are very interesting. Over the centuries many have attempted to correctly interpret the book of Revelation and the book of Daniel, and marry the two.
Myself, having read numerous commentaries and interpretations, I let it be for decades. However, there came a time in my life when I was motivated to look into the book of Revelation more seriously, and also the book of Daniel.
An overview of my insights revelation and commentary is at this link.
https://childofabraham.blogspot.com
One matter is evident, the number of days remaining are short. We are on the cusp of a massive intervention in human history, as before unknown. Not that the flood was not definitive, nor the appearance of God on Mt Sinai (Jabal Al Lawz, the Mountain of God), and more particularly, the death and resurrection of Lord Jesus Christ, which culminated in the fulfilment of the ages, even this have not fully been made known yet to all who are ignorant or are yet to be born.
Since everything begins and ends with Lord Jesus Christ, the Alpha and the Omega, it would only be fitting that if anyone were to interpret the Scriptures, even the passages on eschatology, the stating point ought to be with the Son of God.
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One thing that I find unbelievable is the way these people have a fascination with 666. Either they are throwing it in the face of Christians, because of what is written in the Bible, or they are so deluded that the Prince of the Power of the Air that is at work in the sons of disobedience causes them to do this; the number being that of his name and the seal of his authority.
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I think they are throwing it in the face of Christians. They’re having a laugh at our expense. Think of the rock band IRON MAIDEN or MARILIN MANSON! Both played around with 666 etc but are we really to believe that they are the beast? No and the latter of the two was definitely winding people up! Most MPs and political leaders eg Biden, Boris Johnson, Trudeau, those idiots in australia, are hopelessly pathetic and immature. It’s not that they are demonically evil they’re just unsaved and unsuited for power
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Why do you think worthy Christians like jonathan Sarfati and Robert Carter have said that the shots are safe?
Isn’t the most likely explanation with parallels between prophecy and eg the UN that (a) parallels are exaggerated or coincidence (b) where genuine they reflect non-believers just having a laugh at our expense. Eg ring 616161 if you have medical issues with the pfizer vax; delta omicron being an amagram of media control; beast outside the UN etc. If you recall Christian s asserted hitler, Gorbachev, Obama, Trump were the antichrist! Maybe we deserve to be made fun of at times? Trump wound up the lefties maybe Biden, Macron, Trudeau are just doing the same to us?
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On the question of why Sarfati and Carter promote the death shots, I am starting to believe people like that are Christian in name only like in Matthew 7:21-24.
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What would be your definition of a “Christian”? Personally, I believe that if one is following the doctrines and tenets of the Beast/cabal- Roman Catholic Church, which includes the Gregorian calendar (Roman Pope Gregory) which ushered in a change of the biblical “Times” and the “Laws”, is not following the Christ/Messiah. The Roman Catholic Church makes it very clear in their “Catechism” that they changed the biblical laws, which included changing the Sabbath and the Holy days. The Roman calendar says the year starts in “January” named after pagan god Janus, though the scriptures tell us it is the spring (which makes complete sense). Calendar also says days start at the arbitrary 12 midnight and not at Sun down as scriptures tell us. The “Trinity” was also created by the Beast and does not accurately show us the true relationship of God and the Messiah. The “heaven” and “hell” descriptions are we see are also clearly a pagan/Papal construct and have no basis in the scriptures.
Your writings here are very Insightful, but people tend to not understand how imbedded every so called “Christian” denomination and their tenets are intertwined with the beasts/Catholic church and have no scriptural basis.
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The Roman Catholic church has much to answer for. It has deceived and led many astray. It definitely is the Mother of harlots who rides the beast. The Reformers pegged the papacy as the beast/the anti-christ. It was right for their time, but though I believe the beast system involves the Vatican/papacy it is more than that. It is the total global synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews but are not. Sure it includes the Jewish banksters, the Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Vatican, the English Crown and many more of the secret societies.
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I do think you are on to something though with the AI and buddhist statue connection. I think it’s clear from scripture though it will be set up in a literal temple in jerusalem and the beast is likely to be a federal collection of ME states
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Do you think it’s possible that you were so,( admittedly justifiably), appalled at the enforced lockdowns, violation of civil liberties, destruction of jobs and business, closure of churches, denial of food unless you wore a mask that it coloured your view on the efficacy and safety of the vaccines? I don’t know anyone who’s suffered severely from c-19 but then again I don’t know anyone who suffered severely from the vaccines! It does seem implausible that hundreds of thousands of virologists, geneticists, biochemists, medical experts from all religious and political and cultural backgrounds are all ignorant or conspiring or being silenced about the true nefarious nature of the vaccine!
I’ll finish with two ‘quotes’:
“I came to realize we are living in the last days”
– Dr John Hartnett
“Once an idea gets into the mind it’s almost impossible to eradicate”
– Dom’ Cobb (Leonardo Dicaprio, INCEPTION)
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I know two people who suffered badly from COVID or it could have been a very severe flu. But I do know people who died from the jabs and others now suffering badly. Some have myo-pericarditis and have chest pains on a daily basis. I also know that governments worldwide are restricting all our freedoms and rapidly introducing the mark of the beast technology, the vaxx pass and ID tech. Here is Western Australia the local dictator has heavily restricted us unvaxxed from almost everywhere. There is no medical emergency, there never was. So-called COVID has a lower fatality rate than the flu. This is a global takeover of all governments by a select few of globalists using essentially a scam. The jabs are real enough — but they are bioweapons. This is war!
Mass formation psychosis! https://biblescienceforum.com/2021/12/26/cult-of-the-death-worshippers/
BTW, I don’t think a fictional character has much credibility as far as truth goes.
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I agree with you that it’s a scam, there’s no medical emergency, Dan Andrews and Scott Morrison (by the way, prior to 2020 was Morrison regarded as a Christian by evangelicals?) are tyrants. I think what most likely will happen is that when the ‘beast’ does arise it/he will be influenced by the actions of government over the last two years. But other things will have paved the way as well eg industrialized warfare, credit card, but we don’t regard these in themselves as evil. It’s only when they become linked with an explicitly idolatrous and antichrist system/ideology that it will then become the real thing?
Isn’t the argument concerning myocarditis etc that the same effect would be experienced from the virus but even worse? So those unfortunate people you mention would have suffered even worse from the real thing than they did from the vaccine?
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On the myocarditis: those who got it as a result of being injected with either 50 billion lipid coated mRNA Spike proteins and/or the code for their bodies to manufacture the pathogen got myocarditis by the direct route of it being injected. The coronavirus is only a geneticly modified cold virus and if you get that via the usual channels, nose, mouth or eyes, your body has a defence system that stops most of it. So even if some got through it is minor compared to the bypassing of all the body defences.
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I think you’re on to something with the AI, buddhist statue, injectable chips, and your recognition of financial (at least in regards to what we read in revelation 18) control.
I would like to question these points though
“I don’t believe that the number 10 needs to be exact as many numbers in Revelation are symbolic”
Do you think there are problems here with
(a) the beast is also mentioned in Daniel 7 where it also explicitly has “ten horns”.
(b) do we have clear examples of non-exact numbers in Revelation and even if we did could it apply to a situation where we have multiple attestation ie Daniel 7, Revelation 13 AND 17
(c) many of the commonly cited non-exact/literal/symbolic numbers are most certainly exact or literal eg the 1000 years in Revelation 20 where the Holy Spirit hammers the point home:
“bound him a thousand years” -2
“Til the thousand years”-3
“Reigned with Christ a thousand years”-4
“Until the thousand years were finished”-5
“Reign with him a thousand years”-6
“When the thousand years are expired”-7
So in the space of seven verses the Holy Spirit tells us six times that it’s a thousand years *and even contrasts that definite number with an indefinite “a little season”(3)! It’s hard to see how God could have made it any clearer!
“The kingdom of Rome subsumed all those kingdoms”
However, Babylon covered mesopotamia and Israel, Medo-persia covered mesopotamia and Israel, Greece covered mesopotamia and Israel YET Rome failed to do so and was turned back by the Parthians!
Papal Rome is undeniably corrupt and apostate christianity but can it really be designated as a hyperviolent, barbaric, anti-christ political regime comparable to USSR under Stalin, China under Mao or Germany under Hitler?
Is there a reason to take “the synagogue of satan” in Revelation 2 and 3 as a “global banking/merchant cabal” when
(a) the whole context is religious not financial! In fact these “Jews” are accused of “blasphemy” not extortion or seeking financial gain
(b) they are limited to Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia-Minor
There’s nothing here to suggest the suspiciously anti-semitic notion of a Jewish finance cabal but rather that which the Apostle Paul mentions in the letters to the thessalonians of Jewish persecution of (Jewish) believers in Christ.
(In regards to the ten horns note Psalm 83
“They are confederate against thee:
The tabernacles of EDOM (1) and the ISHMAELITES (2); of MOAB (3) and the HAGARENES(4); GEBAL(5) and AMMON(6) and AMALEK(7); the PHILISTINES (8) with THE INHABITANTS OF TYRE(9); ASSYRIA also(10)”
“O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the ASSYRIAN: he shall smite thee with a rod and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt..
… and there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse … with righteousness shall he judge the poor… and he shall smite the earth with the ROD of his mouth and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked… the wolf also shall dwell with the lamb…
…..they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD (Isaiah 10:1-11:16)
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I would like to question these points though.
[JGH: That is fine to debate these issues.]
“I don’t believe that the number 10 needs to be exact as many numbers in Revelation are symbolic”
Do you think there are problems here with
(a) the beast is also mentioned in Daniel 7 where it also explicitly has “ten horns”.
(b) do we have clear examples of non-exact numbers in Revelation and even if we did could it apply to a situation where we have multiple attestation ie Daniel 7, Revelation 13 AND 17
(c) many of the commonly cited non-exact/literal/symbolic numbers are most certainly exact or literal eg the 1000 years in Revelation 20 where the Holy Spirit hammers the point home:
“bound him a thousand years” -2
“Til the thousand years”-3
“Reigned with Christ a thousand years”-4
“Until the thousand years were finished”-5
“Reign with him a thousand years”-6
“When the thousand years are expired”-7
[JGH: All these verses using a thousand years in Revelation 20 are attributed to the church age which is about 2000 years. So not literally 1000 years. The word Millennium is not mentioned in the Bible nor is this expression “a thousand years” mentioned anywhere else except in Revelation 20. Many orthodox teachers of scripture support this same view (amillenialism). It has been believed by many followers of Christ since the first century. This is discussed in https://biblescienceforum.com/2021/12/29/revelation-20-the-church-age/. As mentioned there:
[JGH] The “thousand years” is not exactly 1000 years, just as it is not an exact number in Psalm 50:10,11, Leviticus 26:8 and many other verses. There are many generalised expressions like this that do not imply an exact number, no more no less.
[JGH] I am following the same line of thinking in this book of Revelation which is highly symbolic.
So in the space of seven verses the Holy Spirit tells us six times that it’s a thousand years *and even contrasts that definite number with an indefinite “a little season”(3)! It’s hard to see how God could have made it any clearer!
[JGH] God apparently “owns the cattle on a thousand hills” (Psalm 50:10,11), then following the same reasoning, all cattle on the rest of the hills on earth are not owned by God. God could not have made it any clearer!
“The kingdom of Rome subsumed all those kingdoms”
However, Babylon covered mesopotamia and Israel, Medo-persia covered mesopotamia and Israel, Greece covered mesopotamia and Israel YET Rome failed to do so and was turned back by the Parthians!
[JGH: I am saying that the kingdom that followed subsumed the previous kingdom. This is self evident as the following kingdom had to conquer the one before it, and thus they subsumed the culture of the previous.]
Papal Rome is undeniably corrupt and apostate christianity but can it really be designated as a hyperviolent, barbaric, anti-christ political regime comparable to USSR under Stalin, China under Mao or Germany under Hitler?
[JGH: Absoluely. Papal Rome has killed many more that all of those tyrants of the 20th century. Maybe not in the inquisitions but certainly throughout the ages with all the wars they fought and massacres of the true believers, like the Huguenots (St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre and other massacres), the Albigenses, Cathars etc.]
Is there a reason to take “the synagogue of satan” in Revelation 2 and 3 as a “global banking/merchant cabal” when
(a) the whole context is religious not financial! In fact these “Jews” are accused of “blasphemy” not extortion or seeking financial gain
[JGH: It is the same satanic cabal that Jesus dealt with in John 8:44 (of their father the devil) and when he whipped out the money changers in the Temple (Jewish usurious money changers/merchants) John 2:14-16.]
(b) they are limited to Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia-Minor
[JGH: All scripture is given by God for all believers. 2 Timothy 3:16 make it clear that it is for the teaching of all followers of Christ in all times. The message in the book of the Revelation is not restricted to certain groups or churches. The synagogue of Satan has been around since Adam and the curse, and when Cain killed Abel, and then on through history, Babel and Nimrod, down to Christ’s time, then onto now.]
There’s nothing here to suggest the suspiciously anti-semitic notion of a Jewish finance cabal
[JGH: What is the use of “anti-semitic” used here for? What are you suggesting? That I am anti-semitic for writing this? Then I am in good company with Jesus Christ. He called them demons in John 8:44.
[JGH: The word “anti-semitic” was invented by the Jewish Bolsheviks to shut down debate around their murderous takeover of Russia when they murdered over 16 million white Russian Christians. Most Bolshevik communists in Russia were Jews whose only goal was to wipe out the Christian population of Russia. That was the real holocaust, called the Holodomor, which when you include neighbouring countries and up to 1957, they murdered about 66 million who were mostly Christians. The first law the Jewish Bolsheviks passed in Soviet Russia, after they took over, outlawed “anti-semitic” speech (penalty: 5 years in the gulags). It was the Rothschild banking family that financed the Jewish Bolsheviks. Besides if you use the word “semite” it applies to all the offspring of Abraham, and thus Arabs are also semites. ]
but rather that which the Apostle Paul mentions in the letters to the thessalonians of Jewish persecution of (Jewish) believers in Christ.
(In regards to the ten horns note Psalm 83
“They are confederate against thee:
The tabernacles of EDOM (1) and the ISHMAELITES (2); of MOAB (3) and the HAGARENES(4); GEBAL(5) and AMMON(6) and AMALEK(7); the PHILISTINES (8) with THE INHABITANTS OF TYRE(9); ASSYRIA also(10)”
“O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the ASSYRIAN: he shall smite thee with a rod and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt..
… and there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse … with righteousness shall he judge the poor… and he shall smite the earth with the ROD of his mouth and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked… the wolf also shall dwell with the lamb…
…..they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD (Isaiah 10:1-11:16)
[JGH: This is all an allusion to Jesus Christ bringing true righteousness on earth as only He could. It is all an allusion to the church age to come under Christ’s glorious rule.
See https://biblescienceforum.com/2018/10/10/does-isaiah-6517-25-refer-to-an-earthly-millennium-rule-of-christ-on-earth/ ]
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But according to the historians the holodomor was carried out by Stalin, was a failure of productivity, and occurred in the mid-30s and killed a maximum of ten million. And most estimates say around five!
The point about Rev 20 is that it says a thousand years SIX TIMES, and contrasts it with an INDEFINITE NUMBER, and in 3,5,7 explicitly gives an ending eg “and when the thousand years are expired”! Do you have any advice for God on how to make it clearer if he does mean a thousand years? In the psalms the thousand is only stated once and not put in contrast to an indefinite period.
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On the holodomor you need to watch Part 1 of the “Europa: The Last Battle” series. Stalin et al (Jewish Bolsheviks) deliberately starved out the white Russian Christians. Estimates by some are as high as 66 million murdered by the Jewish Bolsheviks. Stalin may not have been Jewish but his 3 wives were, and so was trotsky, lenin and Karl Marx. Most of Stalin’s cabinet was also as were 90% of the Bolsheviks. The history is usually written by the victors and such what you have probably ready was written by the victors.
https://biblescienceforum.com/2022/01/25/europa-the-last-battle/
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